What HTML5 could learn from XHTML2

[Felix-AC]

Hi!

I think, it would be very good, if HTML5 uses some of the good ideas of XHTML2. Like e.g. the <h>-<section>-model that is better than <h1> - <h6>, <separator> instead of <hr>, removing the <font>-element and the <iframe>-tag, ...

A list of more great things, that HTML5 could use from XHTML2 is found here:
http://www.xhtml.com/en/future/x-html-5-versus-xhtml-2/

Best wishes for the standards-development...
Felix

[zcorpan]

I think, it would be very good, if HTML5 uses some of the good ideas of XHTML2.

Indeed, this has already been done while still remaining compatible with existing implementations.

Like e.g. the <h>-<section>-model that is better than <h1> - <h6>,

See: http://forums.whatwg.org/viewtopic.php?t=42

<separator> instead of <hr>,

<hr> is defined to be a thematic break. It needs to be called "hr" for compat.

removing the <font>-element

font will be removed.

and the <iframe>-tag, ...

Why?

[haka]

I dont agree with Felix-AC cause we need the backwards compatibility.

But XHTML applies the href-Attribute to body tags. This wouldnt be compatible to, but if the A tag allowes block-level tags inside, it would be a bit like this. Browers supports it know.

Here I dont see a problem:

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<a href="./"><h1>Headline</h1></a>

I dont know if this would be able:

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<ul>
<a href="./"><li>List item</li></a>
</ul>

[zcorpan]

I dont agree with Felix-AC cause we need the backwards compatibility.

But XHTML applies the href-Attribute to body tags. This wouldnt be compatible to, but if the A tag allowes block-level tags inside, it would be a bit like this. Browers supports it know.

Here I dont see a problem:

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<a href="./"><h1>Headline</h1></a>

I dont know if this would be able:

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<ul>
<a href="./"><li>List item</li></a>
</ul>

What's wrong with:

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<h1><a href="./">Headline</a></h1>

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<ul>
<li><a href="./">List item</a></li>
</ul>

...?

[haka]

Nothing is wrong with it.

News pages uses often text with headline and paragraphs as a one link.

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<a href="?news=222">
<span class="h2">Nessie lives</span>
<span class="p>Nessie was seen near Emden at the german cost ...</span>
</a>

It works with a bit CSS display:block, font-size and margin, but it is not sematic.

[zcorpan]

News pages uses often text with headline and paragraphs as a one link.

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<a href="?news=222">
<span class="h2">Nessie lives</span>
<span class="p>Nessie was seen near Emden at the german cost ...</span>
</a>

It works with a bit CSS display:block, font-size and margin, but it is not sematic.

Aha! Now we're getting somewhere.

See: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatw ... 13024.html

[haka]

Ah, o.k.

[billyswong]

Wow, long time no see the WHATWG and my mailing list post 2 years ago finally got answered!:D Thanks for showing me the link. I've never thought it would surface again, as I have stop reading the mailing list for a long time.